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		<title>20 Years of Booking Shows, Pt. 3</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2009/04/12/20-years-of-booking-shows-pt-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s another flyer from one of my early show productions. This one from April 12, 1989:

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		<title>Corkball in River City</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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I haven&#8217;t played corkball since I was a kid, and even then it was only at a couple of family reunions (on the DuParri side of the family at that, too, if I remember correctly), and usually the game was spearheaded by my dad or one of his countless cousins. I remember having an old, [...]]]></description>
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<p>I haven&#8217;t played corkball since I was a kid, and even then it was only at a couple of family reunions (on the DuParri side of the family at that, too, if I remember correctly), and usually the game was spearheaded by my dad or one of his countless cousins. I remember having an old, weathered corkball and a beatup old corkball bat around the house growing up. That bat was really thin and long, and part of the nob had broken off at some point. Once in a blue moon my dad would toss the tiny, miniature baseball to me in the backyard and I&#8217;d try my best to whack at it, usually missing the damned thing miserably. Back then I actually liked playing bottle caps more, and saved a whole shoebox full of them (90% of the caps featuring Falstaff, Ballantine or 905 beer logos) that I&#8217;d haul out of storage and use at family gatherings or whenever I could convince some kids from the neighborhood to play. My favorite part about throwing the bottle caps was the way they would zing and curve around before almost hitting the batter right in the face. No, there wasn&#8217;t much control in throwing bottle caps, or at least, if there was, I sure as hell didn&#8217;t know how to do it. But it was fun as hell, nevertheless.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re like a lot of people these days, you&#8217;re probably wondering what the hell it is I&#8217;m writing about. Corkball? Bottle caps? WTF? And, I guess it&#8217;s because my dad was older—he had served in World War II and played stickball on the streets of Manchester and old North St. Louis when he was a kid—that I knew anything about it. Most of the other kids in my neighborhood had nary a clue what any of it was. To them, there was only one sport and that was baseball. So that&#8217;s what we played most of the time, including my junior-high years when we would play baseball <em>every freakin&#8217; day</em> for two or three summers in a row (even if it rained). But that all came later, and once I&#8217;d started playing baseball, I never even really thought about corkball or bottle caps ever again. That is, until recently.</p>
<p>Corkball is a St. Louis thing, but unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t quite have the attention of other &#8220;St. Louis things&#8221; like toasted ravioli, St. Louis-style pizza, rolling stops, or our quirky habit of asking other locals where they went to high school. No one is quite sure when the game first started being played, but most local historians point to the turn of the twentieth century, and it&#8217;s been played ever since (in fact, the <a title="Gateway Corkball Club" href="http://gatewaycorkball.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Gateway Corkball League</a> has been around since 1929, believe it or not!). I could go into some great detail about the history of the game, but I couldn&#8217;t say it better than it was said in <a title="The Sport That Time Forgot" href="http://www.esquire.com/features/the-game/sport-time-forgot-0600" target="_blank">this Esquire Magazine article</a> published on June 1, 2000. Do yourselves a favor and read it! Truly a unique story. And while you&#8217;re poking around on the Web for more info about this great old sport, be sure to visit the <a title="Corkball Rules" href="http://www.markwort.com/featured/corkball.asp" target="_blank">Corkball page</a> on Markwort Sporting Goods&#8217; website for detailed rules so you can really differentiate it from baseball and, indeed, other forms of stickball. Further reading can be found on the <a title="South St. Louis Corkball Club" href="http://www.angelfire.com/sports/corkball/" target="_blank">South Saint Louis Corkball Club</a>, the <a title="Lemay Corkball Club" href="http://www.hometeamsonline.com/teams/?u=lemaycorkball&amp;s=baseball&amp;t=c" target="_blank">Lemay Corkball Club</a>, the <a title="Sportsman's Corkball Club" href="http://www.sportsmanscorkball.com/" target="_blank">Sportsman&#8217;s Corkball Club</a> as well as the aforementioned Gateway Corkball Club sites. In fact, if you&#8217;re looking for some more competitive leagues, I would highly recommend any of those over what I&#8217;m planning on starting, but more on that in a minute.</p>
<p>So I basically went my entire adult life (so far) without having played even <em>one</em> inning of corkball, much less even watching a game. That is, until this year. I never forgot about nor lost my love of the game, and always had it in the back of my head that <em>someday</em> I would get off my ass and play it again. Well, a few weeks ago I realized that I&#8217;m not getting any younger and if I want to start playing, I should do it now. Why wait any longer? And since the four corkball fields at Tower Grove Park (within walking distance of my house) are going virtually unused in the 21st century (thanks to the Sportsman&#8217;s Corkball Club hightailing it for the &#8220;safer&#8221; Jefferson Barracks Park some nine years ago), there&#8217;s really no reason why I shouldn&#8217;t be playing.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ve started recruiting players to form a new, relaxed, non-competitive league, named the <a title="River City Corkball Club" href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=62902591103" target="_blank">River City Corkball Club</a>. The emphasis will be on having fun and we won&#8217;t be keeping track of stats or wins/losses. In fact, each game will be pickup-game style, just like how some of used to play pickup softball games at Tower Grove Park a decade ago. I figure we&#8217;ll start playing on Wednesday nights the third week of April (April 15). We&#8217;ll need to purchase some equipment (mainly a couple of masks, a batting helmet, some balls, etc.), and the best way to do that is to have everyone chip in some money. Maybe we&#8217;ll even have some shirts made, who knows. But this is definitely not the type of league that will be highly competitive or have bylaws, like those other local corkball clubs (no disrespect intended, naturally).</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in checking it out, by all means, let me know. Post a comment below and/or join the <a title="River City Corkball Club" href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=62902591103" target="_blank">Facebook group</a>, and we&#8217;ll see you at the park!</p>
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<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 392px"><img title="Corkball Court" src="http://www.markwort.com/featured/Images/court.gif" alt="Corkball Court" width="382" height="411" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Corkball Court</p></div>
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		<title>20 Years of Booking Shows, Pt. 2</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2009/03/18/20-years-of-booking-shows/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A flyer from what I think would be the second show I booked, from 20 years ago:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A flyer from what I think would be the second show I booked, from 20 years ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kopper/2274327365/"><img class="alignnone" title="I.D. Under Flyer" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2222/2274327365_9d8dbfc9b3_b.jpg" alt="" width="473" height="614" /></a></p>
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		<title>The Flat Duo Jets &#8211; Live at Cicero&#8217;s (1995)</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2009/02/17/the-flat-duo-jets-live-at-ciceros-1995/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Flat Duo Jets &#8211; Live at Cicero&#8217;s Basement Bar, St. Louis, MO (11/12/95)
Enjoy this hot rockin&#8217; set from the Flat Duo Jets from Chapel Hill, NC, featuring Dex Romweber and Crow, presented by Kopper of the Savage Kick podcast. Thanks again to Jim Utz for providing this one!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Flat Duo Jets &#8211; Live at Cicero&#8217;s Basement Bar, St. Louis, MO (11/12/95)</strong></p>
<p>Enjoy <a title="OOTV #20" href="http://www.garagepunk.com/2009/02/17/out-of-the-vaults-into-your-ears-20/" target="_blank">this hot rockin&#8217; set</a> from the Flat Duo Jets from Chapel Hill, NC, featuring Dex Romweber and Crow, presented by <a title="Kopper in the Hideout" href="http://garagepunk.ning.com/profile/kopper65" target="_blank">Kopper</a> of the <a title="Savage Kick" href="http://savagekick.garagepunk.com" target="_self">Savage Kick</a> podcast. Thanks again to Jim Utz for providing this one!</p>
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		<title>Xmas</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2008/12/19/xmas/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve always wondered about this myself, so it was interesting to read this come into my e-mail today, courtesy of the Grammar Girl:
Retailers have long been accused of secularizing Christmas by using &#8220;Xmas&#8221; in signs and advertisements; therefore, I suspect many of you will be surprised to learn that &#8220;Xmas&#8221; has a religious origin.
In Greek, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered about this myself, so it was interesting to read this come into my e-mail today, courtesy of the <a title="Grammar Girl" href="http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/" target="_blank">Grammar Girl</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Retailers have long been accused of secularizing Christmas by using &#8220;Xmas&#8221; in signs and advertisements; therefore, I suspect many of you will be surprised to learn that &#8220;Xmas&#8221; has a religious origin.</p>
<p>In Greek, the letter &#8220;chi&#8221; is written as an X, and chi is the first letter of the Greek word for &#8220;Christ.&#8221; Greeks sometimes abbreviated &#8220;Christ&#8221; as &#8220;X.&#8221; For example, they abbreviated &#8220;Christ savior&#8221; as &#8220;XP.&#8221; (&#8220;P&#8221; is the symbol for the Greek letter &#8220;rho,&#8221; which is the first letter of the word &#8220;savior&#8221; in Greek.) The <em>Oxford English Dictionary</em> shows the first known English use of &#8220;Xmas&#8221; in 1551.</p>
<p>As for appropriateness, &#8220;Xmas&#8221; may have a religious origin and fit better on signs, but many people &#8212; both those who use &#8220;Xmas&#8221; and those who complain about its use &#8212; are unaware of the religious origin. If you choose to use &#8220;Xmas,&#8221; you should know that some people will be infuriated.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; maybe that&#8217;s why I prefer to use &#8220;Xmas.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>20 Years of Booking Shows, Pt. 1</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2008/12/17/20-years-of-booking-shows-pt-1/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A flyer from the very first show I ever officially booked (through John Green at the Bernard Pub in St. Louis), the &#8220;I-70 Hardcore Fest,&#8221; from 20 years ago:

Thanks to Tim Jamison for this one!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A flyer from the very first show I ever officially booked (through John Green at the Bernard Pub in St. Louis), the &#8220;I-70 Hardcore Fest,&#8221; from 20 years ago:</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1210" title="I-70 Hardcore Fest" src="http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/i70hcfest.jpg" alt="I-70 Hardcore Fest" width="458" height="604" /></p>
<p>Thanks to Tim Jamison for this one!</p>
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		<title>Stagger Lee</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The location of Lee Shelton&#39;s whorehouse is still standing.
William Lyons, 25, colored, a levee hand, living at 1410 Morgan Street, was shot in the abdomen yesterday evening at 10 o&#8217;clock in the saloon of Bill Curtis, at Eleventh and Morgan Streets, by Lee Sheldon, also colored. Both parties, it seems, had been drinking and were [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><img title="Photo by Kopper" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/3055412071_72075d3136.jpg" alt="The house where Lee Shelton lived is still standing." width="500" height="333" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The location of Lee Shelton&#39;s whorehouse is still standing.</p></div>
<blockquote><p><span>William Lyons, 25, colored, a levee hand, living at 1410 Morgan Street, was shot in the abdomen yesterday evening at 10 o&#8217;clock in the saloon of Bill Curtis, at Eleventh and Morgan Streets, by Lee Sheldon, also colored. Both parties, it seems, had been drinking and were feeling in exuberant spirits. Lyons and Sheldon were friends and were talking together. The discussion drifted to politics and an argument was started, the conclusion of which was that Lyons snatched Sheldon&#8217;s hat from his head. The latter indignantly demanded its return. Lyons refused, and Sheldon withdrew his revolver and shot Lyons in the abdomen. Lyons was taken to the Dispensary, where his wounds were pronounced serious. He was removed to the City Hospital. At the time of the shooting the saloon was crowded with negroes. Sheldon is a carriage driver and lives at 911 North Twelfth Street. When his victim fell to the floor Sheldon took his hat from the hand of the wounded man and coolly walked away. He was subsequently arrested and locked up at the Chestnut Street Station. Sheldon is also known as &#8216;Stag&#8217; Lee.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span>-</span><span><em>Saint Louis Globe-Democrat</em>, December 28, 1895</span></p>
<p>That, in a nutshell, is the story of Lee Shelton (the name had been misspelled in the newspaper), both known as &#8220;Stag&#8221; and &#8220;Stack&#8221; Lee. The Bill Curtis Saloon was located in the epicenter of what was then St. Louis&#8217; thriving vice district. The saloon was located at 1101 Morgan Street (now Delmar and at this location, Convention Plaza), at the corner of 13th Street, a few blocks away from a notorious bordello called The Bucket of Blood. Incidentally, this is also just a few blocks from where I work, at 10th and Washington.</p>
<p>Lee Shelton may have earned himself the nickname of &#8220;Stag&#8221; from his reputation as a pimp and a loner. But there&#8217;s also evidence that he called himself &#8220;Stack&#8221; after the riverboat Stack Lee, part of the Lee Line of riverboats, known as Cecil Brown relates in <a title="Buy the Book at Amazon.com" href="http://www.amazon.com/Stagolee-Shot-Billy-Cecil-Brown/dp/0674016262" target="_blank"><em>Stagolee Shot Billy</em></a>, &#8220;&#8230;for speed, sumptuous cabins, elaborate cuisine—and prostitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the bar, Shelton asked &#8220;Who&#8217;s treating?&#8221; Someone pointed to Billy Lyons. Shelton sat at his table, where, according to several witnesses, they drank companionably until the talk turned to politics. They started throwing blows at each other&#8217;s hats, Shelton eventually breaking the brim of Lyon&#8217;s derby.</p>
<p>In turn, Lyons grabbed Shelton&#8217;s Stetson, saying he wouldn&#8217;t give it back until Shelton paid him for his damaged hat.</p>
<p>Instead, Shelton pulled a .44 Smith &amp; Wesson revolver, shot Lyons, snatched his hat, and, without a word, walked out of the bar and back to his boarding house on 6th Street. He was arrested early the next morning after police, following a tip, found him asleep in bed.</p>
<p>Billy Lyons died from his wounds, and Stag Lee was put on trial for murder—twice. The first trial ended in a hung jury amidst a lot of political controversy. In the second trial, Shelton was convicted and sentenced to 25 years at the state penitentiary. He was released early, but went right back to a life of crime. He ended up pistol-whipping a thug and was sent right back to prison where he died, at age 46, in 1912.</p>
<p>The story and, subsequently, the song traveled down the Mississippi River from St. Louis to New Orleans, where it took on a life of its own. The scoundrel&#8217;s name variously became &#8220;Stag&#8221; Lee, Stagger Lee, Stag-O-Lee, Stagolee, Stackolee, Stack-A-Lee, and even Stack-O-Dollars, and the song traveled around the country. The words to the song were first published in 1910 by folklorist John Lomax under the title &#8220;Stagolee.&#8221; In most versions of the song, the dispute involves gambling and the Stetson hat. One of the first recordings was by Frank Hutchison in 1927. Blues singer and guitarist Mississippi John Hurt recorded the song in 1928 under the title &#8220;Stack O&#8217;Lee Blues.&#8221; Stack O&#8217;Lee is hanged in Hurt’s version. The tune became well known throughout the South and has been immortalized in song over the last century, performed by the likes of Mississippi John Hurt, Bob Dylan, Jerry Lee Lewis, Nick Cave &amp; The Bad Seeds, Ike and Tina Turner, Wilson Pickett, PJ Proby, Pat Boone, The Grateful Dead, Champion Jack Dupree and Lloyd Price, amongst many others. There are hundreds of different versions of the song, variously called Stagger Lee, Stagolee, Stackerlee, Stack O&#8217;Lee, Stack-a-Lee and several other spellings, sung by musicians as far apart in style as W.C. Handy (&#8220;Stack O&#8217;Lee&#8221;) and The Clash (&#8220;Wrong &#8216;Em Boyo&#8221;).</p>
<p>The boarding house at 911 N. 12th Street (now known as Tucker Blvd.), where, according to the <em>St. Louis Globe-Democrat</em> story above, &#8220;Stag&#8221; Lee Shelton lived, is still standing; it&#8217;s the only house remaining on the block (directly across from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch building). But, according to Cecil Brown, this was actually the location of Shelton&#8217;s &#8220;Lid&#8221; club (whorehouse), since police arrested him at his residence on 6th Street&#8230; but I am not sure if this &#8220;Lid&#8221; club was the same nightclub as his infamous &#8220;Modern Horseshoe Club.&#8221; While it once housed a restaurant (the Sommer House) in the early 1990s, it now appears to be a private residence. I snapped the photo above last week.</p>
<p>Lee Shelton is buried in an <a title="Lee Shelton's Grave" href="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GRid=13558138" target="_blank">unmarked grave</a> in Greenwood Cemetery in Hillsdale, Mo., and <a title="Billy Lyons' Grave" href="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GRid=22583" target="_blank">William Lyons&#8217; grave</a> is also unmarked. He is buried in St. Peter&#8217;s Cemetery in Normandy.</p>
<p>ATTACHED MP3: <a title="Stagger Lee Podcast" href="http://blip.tv/file/get/Tirc-StaggerLeePodcast736.mp3" target="_blank">Stagger Lee Podcast</a></p>
<p>Featuring the following songs:<br />
Mississippi John Hurt &#8211; Stack O&#8217;Lee Blues<br />
Lloyd Price &#8211; Stagger Lee<br />
Bob Dylan &#8211; Stack a Lee<br />
Don &amp; the Goodtimes &#8211; Stagger Lee<br />
PJ Proby &#8211; Stagger Lee 1965<br />
Bassholes &#8211; Stack O Lee<br />
Nick Cave &amp; The Bad Seeds &#8211; Stagger Lee<br />
The Clash &#8211; Wrong &#8216;Em Boyo</p>
<p>(A tip of the cap to the <a title="The Story of Stagger Lee - RFT" href="http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2007-06-27/news/the-story-of-stagger-lee/" target="_blank">Riverfront Times</a>, <a title="Harry's Blues Lyrics - Stagolee" href="http://blueslyrics.tripod.com/dictionary/stagolee.htm" target="_blank">Harry&#8217;s Blues Lyrics Online</a>, <a title="Dreamtime" href="http://www.dreamtimepodcast.com/2007/07/episode-36-stagger-lee-shot-billy.html" target="_blank">Dreamtime Podcast</a>, the <a title="Ill Folks" href="http://illfolks.blogspot.com/2007/02/18-versions-of-stagger-lee.html" target="_blank">Ill Folks blog</a> and <a title="Associated Content" href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/68016/the_lee_sheldonwilliam_lyons_story.html?cat=33" target="_blank">Associated Content</a> for information contributing to this article.)</p>


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		<title>The Obvious &#8211; Surf&#8217;s Up, Gang!</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2008/11/19/the-obvious-surfs-up-gang/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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A Saint Louis-based band from the early &#8217;80s, The Obvious was among the first bands to play the New Wave/Punk styles of the late &#8217;70s in St. Louis, a city a little behind the times. Drums: Kevin Brueseke, lead guitar: Alex Mutrux, bass: Jim Saltsider, vocals: Tony Patti, synth: Sally Barnes.
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<p>A Saint Louis-based band from the early &#8217;80s, <a title="The Obvious" href="http://tonypatti.com/oldsite/new_wave/nwave_text/obvious.html" target="_blank">The Obvious</a> was among the first bands to play the New Wave/Punk styles of the late &#8217;70s in St. Louis, a city a little behind the times. Drums: Kevin Brueseke, lead guitar: Alex Mutrux, bass: Jim Saltsider, vocals: Tony Patti, synth: Sally Barnes.</p>
<p>This video comes courtesy of <a title="Lo-Fi Saint Louis" href="http://www.lofistl.com/" target="_blank">Lo-Fi Saint Louis</a>. Bill Streeter wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is a video sent to me by Tony Patti. In 1981 he and his band, The Obvious, made this video (shot on Super 8mm film) on the banks of the Mississippi River in downtown St. Louis under the famous <a title="Eads Bridge" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eads_Bridge" target="_blank">Eads Bridge</a>. In it you can see many young St. Louis scenesters of the time, including Steve Pick and the famous (or some might say infamous) Beatle Bob. I really love this piece. Thanks, Tony, for submitting this one!</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the really interesting things about this video is that it was made <strong>before</strong> the days of MTV, yet is interestingly enough done in true early &#8217;80s MTV style. So in that respect, The Obvious was slightly <em>ahead</em> of the times.</p>
<p>For a lot more info on the early days of the St. Louis punk/new wave scene, please visit Tony Patti&#8217;s excellent <a title="New Wave Nostalgia" href="http://tonypatti.com/oldsite/new_wave/nwave_text/new_wave_nostalgia_intro.html" target="_blank">St. Louis New Wave Nostalgia</a> site.</p>
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		<title>Old Kopp Farmhouse in Manchester</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2008/07/21/old-kopp-farmhouse-in-manchester/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a photo of the of the old Kopp farmhouse on Henry Ave. in Manchester as it stood circa 1893:
Kopp Farmhouse circa 1893
In the early 1860s, my great-great grandfather, Charles (Andreas Heinri Carl) Kopp, bought this house and 16 acres on Henry Ave. in Manchester, Missouri. This house, located at 650 Henry Ave., is still [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a photo of the of the old Kopp farmhouse on Henry Ave. in Manchester as it stood circa 1893:</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kopper/1343055367/in/set-72157606298648031/"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1009/1343055367_643f7a16d8.jpg" alt="Kopp Farmhouse Circa 1893" width="450" height="299" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Kopp Farmhouse circa 1893</p></div>
<p>In the early 1860s, my great-great grandfather, Charles (Andreas Heinri Carl) Kopp, bought this house and 16 acres on Henry Ave. in Manchester, Missouri. This house, located at 650 Henry Ave., is still standing today, although it has been extensively remodeled (see below and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kopper/sets/72157606298648031/" target="_blank">more photos</a> on Flickr). His daughter, Elizabeth, was born here in 1867. This picture was taken ca. 1893/1894.</p>
<p>Left to right: Charles, grand-daughter Annie (Anna) Schroeder, 2nd wife Clementina (nee Weidner), Elizabeth Schroeder (nee Kopp), and a boy that might be his stepson, Charles Steinmeier.</p>
<p>And here is a photo I took of the very same house earlier this summer:</p>
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		<title>Saint Louis Flyer Project</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2008/02/20/saint-louis-flyer-project/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg &#8220;Frog&#8221; Kessler and I have started what we&#8217;re calling the Saint Louis Flyer Project, in which we&#8217;re trying to collect as many &#8220;vintage&#8221; St. Louis-area punk/wave/hardcore and underground/alternative rock flyers from the mid-1970s through the mid-&#8217;90s as we can for a new Flickr group. We&#8217;re only really interested in actual scans of authentic, old-school [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8220;Frog&#8221; Kessler and I have started what we&#8217;re calling the <a title="Saint Louis Flyer Project on Myspace" href="http://www.myspace.com/stl_flyers" target="_blank">Saint Louis Flyer Project</a>, in which we&#8217;re trying to collect as many &#8220;vintage&#8221; St. Louis-area punk/wave/hardcore and underground/alternative rock flyers from the mid-1970s through the mid-&#8217;90s as we can for a new <a title="Saint Louis Flyer Project on Fickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/stlflyers/" target="_blank">Flickr group</a>. We&#8217;re only really interested in actual scans of authentic, old-school paper flyers, no Web flyers made with Photoshop or Illustrator. We just feel there are probably a lot of these things stashed away in boxes in people&#8217;s attics or basements these days, and it&#8217;d be great to get them out, dust them off and let them live again now on the Web. So please contribute to our collection if you have anything worth sharing (and if you don&#8217;t have a scanner and aren&#8217;t afraid to let one of us borrow your collection for a week or two, please get in touch and we&#8217;ll gladly scan them for you). Thanks!<br />
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		<title>Fugazi &#8211; Live at the Bernard Pub</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2007/07/24/fugazi-live-at-the-bernard-pub/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The YouTube entry for this said it was from 1988, but I know that&#8217;s wrong. How? Because I was there, and I happened to be there with the future Mrs. Kopp, my lovely wife, Gina. Now, Gina and I didn&#8217;t even meet until January of &#8216;89, and this video was shot at their first show [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zibWVwI26o" target="_blank">YouTube entry</a> for this said it was from 1988, but I know that&#8217;s wrong. How? Because I was there, and I happened to be there with the future <em>Mrs.</em> Kopp, my lovely wife, Gina. Now, Gina and I didn&#8217;t even meet until January of &#8216;89, and this video was shot at their first show in St. Louis, at the <a href="http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2006-07-05/news/lot-in-life/" target="_blank">ill-fated Bernard Pub</a> (at its original location on Lafayette) in June of that same year. It&#8217;s crazy&#8230; we both totally remember that kid kissing Ian on the cheek and everything like it was yesterday. A timeless classic from <a title="Fugazi" href="http://www.dischord.com/band/fugazi" target="_blank">Fugazi</a>&#8230; enjoy!</p>
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<p>This video was shot by Jim Utz, by the way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>My Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/2007/04/11/my-dad/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just got my dad added to the World War II Memorial website:
Click here.
He&#8217;s still alive, by the way. I know, looking at that page kinda makes it look like he&#8217;s dead.
Next, I need to somehow figure out how I can get his picture on the page.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my dad added to the <a title="WWII Memorial" href="http://www.wwiimemorial.com/" target="_blank">World War II Memorial</a> website:<a title="Emil R. Kopp" href="http://www.wwiimemorial.com/registry/search/pframe.asp?HonoreeID=2089866" target="_blank"></a></p>
<p><a title="Emil R. Kopp" href="http://www.wwiimemorial.com/registry/search/pframe.asp?HonoreeID=2089866" target="_blank">Click here.</a></p>
<p>He&#8217;s still alive, by the way. I know, looking at that page kinda makes it look like he&#8217;s dead.</p>
<p>Next, I need to somehow figure out how I can get his picture on the page.</p>
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